![]() ![]() Moreover, if women have been oppressed by men in the past, men in turn have been oppressed by circumstance: they have marched to war and died in the bloody battlefields, scarred themselves in hard labour, all as defenders and protectors and providers of home and family. To do man's work takes away from their being women. In fact, I think to do such things depreciates them - it is almost an attempt to be like men, to which I think: they are women, they are unique from men. Everybody has their purpose and task, and it is simply not in the job description, as it were, of women to be pastors. My mother has essentially dedicated her life to raising her children, and never once has lamented not having a job - raising her children is her job, and has no less worth than my father working to provide for them. I don't see it as oppression to stick by these. As I said, I do not mind many of the secular freedoms that women have gained, but at times I see the feminist ideals very selfish, and stemming more from a desire to be like men than anything else (which to me seems extremely odd.) I mean, women are women and men are men, and each have their own roles. Even within the supposedly traditional Lutheran church, things are dying left and right.īy the way, just so you know, I'm not mysoginistic or anything like that, merely old-fashioned. well, let them do as they will, and let the Church do as it wills) the way the liturgy is no longer used and services instead are done at random and at whim, or the way praise songs have replaced traditional hymns (changing the focus from what God does for mankind, to a focus on feeling and emotion, and on the self - a perilous thing.) The Church all about is falling apart, and there are few who keep to the old traditions alive, or think them as relevant as they are. This new thing of women being pastors is something I am adamantly against, even as I am against the Church accepting gay marriage (though if the secular world wishes to do it. Again I must say: why would women even wish to be pastors, aside from being envious of the position of men? And is not envy a sin? Is there then discontent in the positions they have been given? And is that not, too, a sin? But it truly, should be kept seperate from the Church. ![]() If these things exist in the secular world, there is little to be done about it, and must be abided, and has in the past century even been a good thing - there are many things women should be allowed to do that they were not able to before. One cannot go before God and tell him he is not doing things as we would like them to be. The Church, for those who do not know, is not a democracy: it does not follow the whims of the people, nor does ascribe to what people in one age or another consider to be politically correct. But the chief problem is this: why do they need to be? Why should they want to be? It is because of the very un-Christian preaching of the self, and that anyone should be able to do anything, a focus on the rights of the individual. It is true there are men that also have neither, but the same holds true: they should not be pastors either. Women do not have the same emotional strength that men have, nor the same commanding precence, that a man does, and that is one of the chief reasons they should not be pastors. Thus for a woman to be a pope would be inherently sinful, if for that than for nothing else. ![]() To even want to, actually, is a sign of corruption and arrogance - wanting to for one's own sake, and because they want to, rather than for the good of the people. Yes, both men and women are human, yes they both have a soul, but not all people are allowed to do all things. Secondly, no, God did not say it, but all his apostles were men and so considering the Church is a religious institution, going against such things is perilous. ![]() No, by no means whatsoever can the pope be a woman (and remember: I belong to a tradition that once considered the papacy the anti-christ, and stood in fierce opposition to the Roman Church.)įirstly, the very name 'pope' means father. ![]()
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